Thursday, June 22, 2023

vaccine problems


the anti vax nut Robert Kennedy is running for president. But if you want to hear his opinions, fugetaboutit because Youtube has removed the video of his interview with Jordan Peterson. However it can be found on Rumble, if you can stand actually going to that controversial site.

cue Joe Rogan.

And the pro vax scientist laments he is having his feelings hurt by these influential folks.

What I worry is that, like the lies about the Dengue vaccine here, that the lies about the covid vaccine will lead to a distrust of all vaccines, and lead to people dying of diseases like measles, whooping cough, tetanus, etc...even though these vaccines have been around for decades and have saved millions of lives. 

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In the meanwhile, I might get into trouble because I tweeted this report about the newest Covid vaccine to a local newspaper pushing folks to get the newest vaccine:

Among adults aged ≥18 years without immunocompromising conditions, bivalent booster vaccine effectiveness (VE) against COVID-19–associated hospitalization declined from 62% at 7–59 days postvaccination to 24% at 120–179 days compared with VE among unvaccinated adults. Among immunocompromised adults, lower bivalent booster VE was observed.


translation: it seemed to lower the death ratefor two months (!): (italics mine).

In time-stratified analyses comparing mortality rates among unvaccinated persons with those among vaccinated persons 2 weeks–2 months after receipt of a bivalent booster dose, mortality RRs significantly declined from 16.3 during the BA.5-predominant period to 8.4 during the XBB.1.5-predominant period, representing a modest reduction in crude vaccine effectiveness

so give it to grandmom, not your two year old kid. 

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update: actually the protection for grandmom isn't that great.... maybe because the vaccine is lousy or maybe because the immune system is sluggish in the elderly who often have comorbidities.

From the CDC:

Among nursing home residents who were up to date with COVID-19 vaccination (most had received a bivalent vaccine), vaccine effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infection was 31.2%.

so instead of lamenting the lousy immunity boost, they say hey it works so keep the shots up to date.

Well, it's better than nothing....

to put it into perpective: the weekly rate was 7-15 per thousand if you got the vaccine, but 11-19 if you had the vaccine.



I should note: Someone needs to teach these folks to write clearly.

and not answered: Will repeated shots increase the rate of spike protein induced auto immune problems? LINK Immunology 2022 article wondered about this. 

and this article (Vaccines Basel) wonders if this mechanism means more vaccine shots increase your vulnerability to covid. 

and this 2022 article (Cureus) noted that the myocarditis in young men was increased after the second dose. but as this Korean study (Jan 2023 Eur heart journal) shows, it remains rare with 1.35 per 100 thousand, but much higher (5 in 100thousand)  in young men. 

the original covid virus, which killed mainly the eldelry but also killed the middle aged and young (several local businessmen died of it, and one of our friends' pregnant daughter and her baby died of covid: She refused the vaccine because of pregnancy.) 

But now, with the omicron varient, covid pneumonia deaths  which had a typical x ray. are rare,

Most of the deaths are with covid (of bacterial pneumonia, simlar to deaths with influenza), not from the virus causing pneumonia.

The problem is was not pushing the use of covid vaccines early in the epidemic. That was justified.

The problem was censoring alternative opinions, prolonging the lockdown, etc. And now the problem is continuing to promote their use on low risk people after omicron varient took over.

Dr Malone discusses (banned video).

His criticisms are a bit over the top, so he was banned, but the Streisand effect kicked in and the banning made his discussion with Joe Rogan pretty well explode the monopoly of the gatekeeprs. And not just to the anti vax types:

 A lot of us got upset when doctors trying to give possible helpful medicines were threatened by losing their licenses... the problem was trying to give anti virals and medicines with few side effects like Ivermectin was now taboo despite contradicting studies  link link link

people who face a serious disease will often succumb to quack medicine of course. or sometimes just find a way to buy the medicines because they know that they could die wanting for the FDA to approve the medicine. Dallas buyers club anyone?

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the British scandal of party gate has MPH Dr Campbell and historian Neil Oliver angry. Apparantly the VIPs in the UK partied at a time when lockdowns prevented people visiting their loved one, etc.

Sort of like when BLM protests were okay but attending church or school was not.

Sigh.

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